tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15742539.post2864012800927599066..comments2024-03-28T03:10:19.013-07:00Comments on Fraggmented: Professor Pangloss Has No Answers HereJohn Seaveyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07530526320973807452noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15742539.post-50857689811962909412015-05-19T16:58:56.384-07:002015-05-19T16:58:56.384-07:00Very well said, sir; very well said.Very well said, sir; very well said.imnotandreihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15850536340957506236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15742539.post-35494369109497311302015-04-28T10:05:06.973-07:002015-04-28T10:05:06.973-07:00Absolutely. Which also feeds back into the argumen...Absolutely. Which also feeds back into the argument that both sides are not being equally uncivil; the worst anyone is saying about the Puppies is that they're racist jackasses, while the Puppies are perfectly willing to cast their opponents as the cause of the Fall of Western Civilization.John Seaveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07530526320973807452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15742539.post-64463820584798869512015-04-28T09:11:42.319-07:002015-04-28T09:11:42.319-07:00So yep, it's Us vs Them. It's Us vs Them b...<i>So yep, it's Us vs Them. It's Us vs Them because the Puppies and the GamerGaters have picked a fight with a group of people who can't walk away, because their fundamental disagreement with women and minorities is that they exist and that isn't likely to change soon.</i> <br /><br />It's also "Us vs. Them" because they (i) are using scorched Earth policies; Beale has been very clear about that, and Correia has all but said it with his "I'm Churchill, Brad is FDR, Ted is Stalin" argument (which, by extension, means anyone who opposes them is a nazi and nothing short of unconditional surrender will do). And (see the aforementioned analogy) (ii) they've said "either you are with us or you are against us and need to be destroyed". You cannot have a reasoned debate and take your lumps with those who are unwilling to talk; if they cast you as the devil, you can't talk to them, because they <i>cannot</i> talk to you: it would be, literally, negotiating with the devil. So it is both the ground they are attempting to take over, and the underlying tactics that they have chosen that preclude "friendly disagreement". magidinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12255841033538755123noreply@blogger.com